Rogue, sorcerer, warrior

Why this split? This began as a comment on a Google Plus conversation, but I think it’s worth a blog post. For me, the split is based on two things: problem solving tools and archetypes. For archetypes, the inspiration is swords & sorcery. This, in my opinion, is uncontroversial and does not need further elaboration (other than to remark that the cleric, if taken too far away from the original Van Helsing and Solomon Kane inspirations, does not fit so well aesthetically or culturally).

Clerics are really a hybrid class in terms of problem solving, and could potentially be either fighter/mages (for the trad crusader vampire hunter that also has some magic) or thief/mages (a version less often seen, but just as thematic for zealous witch hunters or hashashin characters). However, the hybrid nature of the cleric means that it can be understood based on the other three main classes, so no more need be said about the cleric independently.

The primary problem solving qualities of the core classes are: combat/renewable resource (fighter), combat/consumable resource (magic-user), utility/renewable resource (thief), and utility/consumable resource (magic-user). Thus, the magic-user is more versatile, but resource-limited (and in most incarnations, more fragile). Obviously there is some bleed between the approaches when you consider the actual implementation (everyone can make melee attacks, fighters can still use some magic items, etc). So that’s where the split comes from in terms of OD&D game mechanics.

Edit: I should also link to Talysman’s post on classes and problem solving here.

2 thoughts on “Rogue, sorcerer, warrior

  1. Gus L.

    I do like this breakdown – but also understand the desire many people have to play in/run more fille in worlds. The fighter/magic-user/expert breakdown though seems almost to cry out for world specific subclassing or less rigidly, skill based identifiers – and that to me is a sign of strength because the simplicity encourages thinking about function and streamlines mechanics so that story/setting/play can fill in more of the game’s space. Ok that’s sort of obnoxious pablum I just typed, but point is that by focusing on the mechanical spaces these archetypes have rather than the dross of fictional “niche” it makes a very adaptable foundation. For example – in a “Five Kingdoms” setting wizard might be hard to figure out genre wise – those Taoist sorcerers are really tricksters, but thinking with the mechanics your triad suggests one can ask the question are they “rogues” with somewhat imprecise utility solutions always at hand, or sorcerers proper with perfect solutions available on a very limited basis. I think the first, and the mechanical focus means one isn’t tied down by the fictional world, allowing one to see a genre where the ‘wizards’ are mechanically ‘thieves’. Okay that’s not much better.

    1. Brendan Post author

      No, I think you’re on to something. I mean, I could easily see “fighters” being mechanically implemented as a resource constrained class, too (and not using encounter powers or whatever). Something like an explosives expert, or heavy weapon specialist, for example.


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